okay started all right
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all right hello everyone uh on a very
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serious note
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uh from our uh you know this is gonna
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be at the start of the interview um
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so you know in this we bring up uh
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you know the slender verse and mural
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horns and stuff like that and for those
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of you in the know
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um you understand you know what has
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recently come out
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uh with the allegations uh
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can we even call them allegations
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because they seem pretty concrete
00:35
yeah they do seem pretty concrete uh
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about uh adam rosner uh
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and what had happened so
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uh since uh for the video's sake uh this
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is gonna be in the front
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uh you can see this sticky note here uh
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this is
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uh this has two links uh important
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websites
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uh that me and josh here
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uh want to want to
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you know bring up for anyone who was
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affected
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uh by rosner or even
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or anyone else yeah anyone else um
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you know because things like this are
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very traumatizing
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and can absolutely
01:23
change your life uh it's
01:26
a very serious topic and it's very
01:29
messed up what happened um you know for
01:32
for the sake we're not
01:33
gonna say too much you know for trigger
01:36
warning's sake but adam rosner was
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um recently
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uh outed for
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the grooming of children and that's the
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only allegation i'm gonna talk about
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because the rest of it is also very
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messed up and very triggering
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um so yeah that's all i'm gonna
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say on that but um you know josh josh
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here
02:04
and i agreed to both uh
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tip our hats in and uh give people
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resources
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um yeah so
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the resources we have um available
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here uh the first one is rain which
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stands for the rape abuse and incest
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national network
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uh and it's the it's in the united
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states at least it is the biggest
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organization uh against sexual violence
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uh and it in the last 25 years over 3
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million people have been helped by reign
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um and they also
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have um a
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safe helpline with the def the
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department of defense
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um and i think alex
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uh since you're more familiar with the
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the next source you should talk about it
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a little bit yeah yeah i can talk about
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it so the
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next source we have is the sph official
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website the
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suicide prevention hotline official
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website um
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this uh site i feel like uh
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should have been added because some
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people
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uh you know are affected by this
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for years and it just builds up
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and that can lead to awful things i
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personally have seen some of the things
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i can do uh to a person and it's
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i it's just absolutely
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awful and if you're experiencing uh
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those kinds of
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thoughts or you're close to acting on
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them i
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highly recommend that you contact here
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i've bolded it i bolded both the uh
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the uh urls and i'm gonna put them in
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the description
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uh wherever i post this on blogger or
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spotify if it ends up on there or
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youtube uh for you guys to contact them
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so yeah this is essentially what it
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sounds like it's
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you know the website for sph and
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it essentially functions the same way
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as calling into the hotline and uh
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as i said if you feel like you're
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in that mental state uh
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i highly recommend reaching out to them
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uh because it's
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you know i i'm sorry it's just very hard
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to
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formulate but yeah if you're feeling
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if you're feeling that way please reach
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out and
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talk to someone
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yet i i have definitely
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um had people in my life who have been
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affected by that um and it is
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is just a terrible thing to happen to
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anyone
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um and i think it's it's very um
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uh important to have these resources
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available
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um and i i thank you alex for bringing
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up the
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second uh the second uh source because
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i i'm still forgetful that i would not
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have even thought about that
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on my own so i just you know the two
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the two correlated when you send me the
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uh the email about it yeah
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so you know that that popped in my head
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once you brought it up
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all right but yeah as we said uh please
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uh if you've been affected by
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anyone in the same way that amrozner has
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affected people
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please uh reach out to rayne and
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if you feel like
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if you're in that mental state where you
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feel like uh
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giving up on life please reach out to
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the sph
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hotline.org uh
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so yeah that's all i have to say on that
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yeah
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so i am going to finish my dinner
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because
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it's getting cold oh um i don't know
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what alex is gonna do
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uh but i think this is josh and this is
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alex and we are
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uh this is our message for
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you guys yeah and please enjoy the
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podcast
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once it starts yes
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all right okay everyone
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welcome to this unorthodox uh blog post
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slash podcast slash
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whatever this is going to end up being
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uh that's probably going to blend
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youtube at some point
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uh i'm currently here with uh josh
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from broken canvas which is a youtube
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channel
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uh that i've been catching up with uh i
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i caught up with josh
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uh on reddit a while ago
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and uh since then we've been talking and
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it seems that josh
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has uh some paranormal phenomenon going
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on and if you uh
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follow my blog frequently you know that
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that's the kind of [ __ ] that i
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absolutely love so i got josh for an
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interview and uh
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yeah welcome josh hello
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right i i don't know
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what to say um do you have any questions
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for me alex
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yeah yeah uh so you know i recently
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rewatched
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uh everything that happened uh
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pretty recently to refresh myself
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and uh i wanna know uh what what exactly
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to your knowledge what has led to these
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events cause paranormal phenomenon
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usually have a center point you know an
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area they begin
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yeah so i'm not exactly sure
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if there's a center point um
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but i do know that this all started
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around 2018
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um when this this
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local kid he actually went to my school
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but he got into a
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hunting accident but it was weird
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because none of the reports
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um were consistent with other hunting
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accidents
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and so i think he must have
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brought something along into this
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realm i guess dimension it kind of
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sounds cheesy when i wear it that way
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but
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no no no that's that's perfectly fine um
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actually my my recent uh find
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uh has been a um
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a weird tale of uh parallel worlds
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uh in which things exist beyond us
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it sounds weird but once you understand
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uh dimensions and how they work you know
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first second
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third you know there is a dimension
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above ours and then there's a dimension
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above that it just keeps going
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so uh yeah it doesn't sound cheesy to me
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uh other people i can't
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guarantee but uh yeah i believe yeah no
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stressing
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uh so so you say it was a hunting
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accident that
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may have uh brought this thing in
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or do you think they or do you think
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that it targeted this person and just
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use the
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you know chance it took to attack them
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well
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i don't actually think it was a hunting
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accident you see um
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when you if you read the autopsy report
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uh it's a
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one sec what's his name it's a guy named
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tony vern
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um but if you read his autopsy report
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the
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entry wound that they said was from a
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bullet
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is more consistent with a puncture wound
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and one of the many entities that i'm
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dealing with right now has these long
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like claws
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yeah so i think yeah you know
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i i i believe you send me a
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s is that the same entity that you send
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me a sketch of
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oh no that's a different entity okay you
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can you can like
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uh i don't know how this works i've
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never been on a podcast before but
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you could probably probably like
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make that picture the um
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the the thumbnail the thumbnail yeah i
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can do that um
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since it's also probably gonna up on
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youtube and blog spot
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i'm probably gonna throw a documented
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photos
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and and stuff onto that uh to you know
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order uh as they come up yeah so that's
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that's very
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interesting um so
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uh this creature
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what yeah what so far has been like the
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strong
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binding connection you feel that like
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has correlated you know you if that
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makes sense you know
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yeah um
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it's sort of
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it's interesting because there seems to
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be like
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extra normal forces that want to like
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communicate with me
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and one of them is this this
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this uh notebook it just is journal on
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the front
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uh but it's it's really cool looking you
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should see it sometime it's like
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journal but i forgot what it's called
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but
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it's a sort of calligraphy where if you
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turn it upside down it still says
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journal
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anyway i'm getting off track so it's
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like a palindrome but upside down
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yeah yeah like a palindrome but upside
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down um
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yeah um before this whole mess started
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uh my father was an english teacher so i
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oh i
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i majored in photography so i wasn't
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yeah anything
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yeah all right so um basically this book
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this journal it updates by itself
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i don't really know what the force is at
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will
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that do that error um but
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it updates and it tells me things like
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i haven't tried like writing a question
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in there to like see if an answer
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will pop up so i don't know if that's
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going to work um
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i might try that eventually but yeah i
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would give it a try
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uh yeah it sounds like the extra
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dimensional mailbox situation that
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happened
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a couple years back in oregon i believe
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uh someone found a mailbox
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and it would just leave notes and if you
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wrote things to it it would respond
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yes so you could probably give that try
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uh sorry if i cut you off i was just
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that just popped into my head
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yeah um
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one sec you're good yeah
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uh so there's that book and
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it updates by itself and it's told me
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that
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um the two main things that i'm dealing
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with
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unfortunately i have not been able to
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get them on camera yet
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which is annoying because you know how
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much
13:20
it takes to make people believe you in
13:22
situations like this
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definitely definitely in my uh my line
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of hobby work it's
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it's very hard you know that's
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that's why i started the whole vlog
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thing because like
13:34
you know i i believe firmly in the super
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natural and the paranormal
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but uh you know it it it needs
13:42
its boundaries it needs its focus i mean
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if i
13:45
if i see a blurry photo of a dude in the
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forest and you tell me that's bigfoot
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i'm not gonna believe it's big phone
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unless you have like
13:52
more evidence or like yeah exactly but i
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do believe you
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uh from watching you know everything
13:58
that's unfolded it doesn't seem
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the events don't seem natural they don't
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seem like they line
14:04
up to what would be like a normal hoax
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you know
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yeah thank you for that
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um of course of course so basically
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the the journal has told me that
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there's two main entities that i'm
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dealing with
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um one of them i have been able to catch
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on photo
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multiple times but the problem with that
14:28
is it manifests as a giant cloud of
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literal fog yeah so no one's gonna just
14:34
be like oh
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i see it that it's it's not gonna
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yeah so there is a phenomena about that
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actually
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um yeah i don't believe it i don't
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believe it has an actual term
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but it's been debated in the paranormal
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community that um
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creatures that don't usually inhabit our
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realm
14:55
uh can't show up on photo or video well
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uh which leads to heavy artifacting
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uh you know there's there's all those
15:05
paranormal videos that look shaky and
15:07
grainy and
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you know all that yeah i've seen a
15:10
couple of those so uh
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you know sometimes it's attributed
15:15
you know that grain that that mess you
15:17
know we live in the age of smartphones
15:19
everything's really crisp like jpeg art
15:21
effects yeah exactly
15:23
um that's that's caused uh in theory by
15:26
the creatures
15:27
uh because our technology can't pick
15:30
them up properly
15:31
if that makes sense you know they're
15:32
outside of our balance of reality
15:35
so you know that's why when you look at
15:38
paranormal videos of people
15:40
like catching things on
15:43
footage you know uh it gets grainy uh
15:47
people
15:48
people think marble hordes started that
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uh
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but yeah you know to like fake it you
15:54
know with the whole slender man craze
15:55
back then
15:56
uh but no that that was a phenomenon
15:59
that was documented
16:00
years ago uh you know if lovecraft
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uh translate his works into knopping
16:05
letters he probably would have uh
16:08
you know correlated distortion into like
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audio
16:12
you know as he yeah yeah uh stuff like
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that
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you know but yeah so you know
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uh when you get a chance definitely uh
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send me some of the video
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uh the photos high quality so i can post
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them for you
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yeah the the thing is though
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when i mean when i say it is fog i mean
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it's literally fog
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like um all these creatures
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i have no doubt that they've got like
16:39
these arcane
16:41
eldritch names that i can't pronounce
16:44
but
16:44
i for simplicity's sake and also because
16:47
it's just what the journal calls them
16:49
uh the two uh main entities i'm just
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calling
16:53
dark and fog and dark
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um well fog i'll talk about first
16:59
because fog's the one i've gotten
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pictures of but fog
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uh the guy who made the journal uh
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pretty eccentric dude i actually talked
17:09
to him once
17:10
um because he's dead now but um my
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friend
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uh michael is pretty
17:17
susceptible to possession
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yeah um which is why he hasn't been
17:24
in many of my recent videos yeah i was
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about to say i remember
17:27
i believe i remember michael uh after my
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rewatch
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uh you know to refresh myself i i
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believe i remember seeing michael quite
17:35
a bit
17:36
and then just kind of gone yeah
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uh he said he's still willing to do
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videos he's just got to take like a
17:45
break for his mental health and stuff
17:47
you know it's pretty hard when you
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yeah possession isn't fun yeah so uh it
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can lead to
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serious mental uh side effects um
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you know i uh you know what with i
17:59
i have have you seen uh that video i
18:01
posted about
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jeffrey thompson in his house yeah
18:06
so it's believed that what happened with
18:08
jeffrey and i'm gonna be wearing a
18:10
long blog post about this it's just
18:11
taking a while because it's very reason
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um you know one of the main
18:17
beliefs is that jeffrey was possessed uh
18:20
quite a bit
18:21
and then the entity left him multiple
18:23
times
18:24
which led to his his fear of the outside
18:27
world you know
18:29
so multiple possession can uh really
18:32
harm your mental state
18:33
uh it's not good uh
18:38
so sorry to go off on another tangent
18:41
everywhere it's okay um
18:46
so if if you hear any meowing that's
18:47
just one of my cats
18:50
awesome i love cats yeah she's
18:55
yeah she's walking away okay um
18:59
uh anyway uh where were i
19:03
where you're at you're talking about uh
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fog
19:06
and how michael is in the videos anymore
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oh yeah um so michael uh
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he's kind of hard to get a hand a hand
19:18
on
19:18
i guess is that i don't even know how
19:20
the phrase goes
19:22
get a grasp of yeah because
19:26
because first of all um he's
19:29
had a lot of uh experience with the
19:32
paranormal
19:32
even before i was
19:35
having experiences with the paranormal
19:37
uh he's from he's from
19:38
uh canada so oh okay um
19:42
i i don't know why that has anything to
19:45
do with it
19:46
canadian spirits are a little weird uh
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yeah that's
19:49
it's it's funny to say that as an
19:51
american but uh
19:52
canadians spirits that are like outside
19:56
of like america you know
19:57
they're a little different uh usually
20:00
you know that's why up here you know we
20:03
we have tales of and i'm going to
20:05
censor this name for obvious reason
20:07
editing yeah because of
20:09
you know the correlation but the the
20:11
when and go you know that's why it's
20:13
yeah partially canada partially michigan
20:16
you know it's
20:17
it's a spirit uh kind of thing uh
20:20
as i said uh alex if you're watching
20:22
this please add that name out
20:23
uh for respect and so you don't get
20:26
screwed by
20:27
the creature later if you playing this
20:30
back
20:32
but yeah um so yeah canada can correlate
20:36
that sorry
20:38
so uh the other reason it's hard to get
20:41
a hold of him is he's actually gotten
20:43
into college
20:44
recently um yeah so he's doing pretty
20:47
well
20:48
um i forgot what he's majoring in but
20:52
uh he's doing pretty well for himself
20:54
good for him
20:55
good for him yeah yeah um it's difficult
20:59
to i i couldn't imagine the strain of
21:02
going through college and
21:03
uh after suffering multiple possessions
21:05
yeah
21:07
yeah and it's it's also
21:11
um should i
21:15
yeah you know what he told me it'd be
21:17
okay to share
21:18
because of the um circumstances of this
21:21
channel but he's got
21:22
a spirit that has like
21:25
attached itself to him it hasn't
21:28
possessed him yet but it's
21:30
like following him around
21:33
okay okay i know what kind of
21:36
i can't think of the name but i know
21:38
what kind of um uh
21:39
attachment you're talking about yeah
21:42
yeah
21:43
okay uh so that's not good um
21:46
hopefully hopefully he can get that
21:48
taken care of
21:50
uh because you know if you let that
21:52
linger too much it's just gonna
21:54
it's it's gonna get stronger and then
21:55
it's just gonna
21:57
lead to a whole heap of uh trouble later
21:59
on
22:00
yeah anyway back to dark and fog
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um or as i as i neatly
22:08
referred to them are not neatly but
22:10
succinctly
22:11
refer to them in the singular tense as
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dark fog
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okay um i like the ring yeah
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um so
22:22
there are very ancient uh
22:26
creatures i guess uh entities spirits
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i would describe uh if it's not this
22:32
world i would describe as an entity
22:34
yeah things of this world are a creature
22:36
because they're more physical and
22:38
succinct you know like your sasquatch
22:40
your mothman
22:41
but entities are things from other
22:43
worlds that came into ours
22:45
um they don't technically have a
22:47
physical form it may seem like
22:48
they do a lot yeah they're they're more
22:51
other real
22:52
yeah they may seem like they have a
22:53
physical form but that's just them
22:55
projecting to us you know
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yeah but the the book anyway
23:00
describes them as um
23:04
like it sounds insane
23:08
to think about but like
23:11
if you could imagine like emotions
23:15
embodying themselves
23:16
as like entities i guess
23:20
oh hey hey i i've heard of this actually
23:23
i've heard this phenomenon
23:26
um you know uh the this is also gonna go
23:29
into my blog post about jeffrey um
23:32
but uh you know what you're talking
23:34
about is a similar phenomenon that was
23:36
uh correlated to that uh whole messed up
23:40
incident
23:41
uh it's believed that a creature
23:44
that manifests itself as total
23:48
fear um you know was created
23:51
kind of like a tulpa out of jeffrey and
23:54
all the things he did
23:55
um you know i i actually recorded a vlog
23:58
recently and i kind of
24:01
kind of bring it up a little bit i think
24:04
maybe
24:04
i feel like i did if not i'm gonna bring
24:06
it up in a later one but
24:08
yeah it's yeah it's a creature that
24:12
uh is believed to be manifested
24:15
from fear you know yeah
24:19
so anyway um
24:23
one of these creatures fog is
24:27
the embodiment of fear okay um
24:30
or more more succinctly i keep saying
24:33
succinctly i don't know why that's the
24:34
word of the day
24:36
um succinctly i don't i don't even think
24:38
i'm using it right
24:40
it's succinctly i i don't actually know
24:43
i i i know how to use my sense i just
24:45
[Laughter]
24:48
yeah um real fast kids we're gonna look
24:50
up succinctly
24:55
uh in brief and clear expressive manner
25:01
okay so i'm not using it right
25:04
i used it right the first time i'll give
25:06
myself credit there
25:07
but i did not use it right the second
25:09
time
25:10
it's okay anyway um
25:16
it's more properly i guess
25:20
the embodiment of paranoia rather than
25:23
fear
25:24
okay and then dark
25:27
which is like this is gonna sound really
25:31
cheesy to anyone who
25:32
remembers the whole slenderman fad um
25:35
but
25:36
it's like a man
25:41
with and he's got long arms but that is
25:44
that is where the um the correlation
25:48
like yeah that's where the correlation
25:50
ends he's
25:52
he's got long arms but he's got normal
25:54
size legs normal-sized torso
25:56
he's not particularly tall so it's kind
25:59
of like a gorilla
26:01
situation where it's just got really
26:02
long like arms
26:05
yeah except she's like scrawny he's like
26:10
you can see his like ribs poking out
26:12
okay
26:13
uh that that does remind me of uh
26:16
something i
26:16
saw uh i was watching a web series
26:20
um uh what was the name of it
26:23
i can't remember but there was a there's
26:25
a creature kind of like that
26:27
had little legs and long arms uh
26:30
so hey maybe maybe someone saw
26:33
uh saw it too and just kind of picked it
26:36
up as a costume design
26:39
yeah um
26:42
but the weirdest part is he's like
26:45
covered in oil
26:46
like head to toe just oil okay
26:51
and the only part of him that's not
26:53
covered in oil is
26:54
his claws like i mentioned before the
26:57
claws
26:57
yeah yeah the claws that may have caused
26:59
the uh the puncture wound
27:01
yeah they're like really long
27:05
i'd say about a foot uh six inches to a
27:08
foot in length
27:08
i'm not really good at making
27:10
measurements i got you
27:12
um especially when i'm running away from
27:14
things of course you're not
27:16
you're not going to be like hey let me
27:18
bust out my fast
27:21
one sec i think i have like a uh tape
27:24
measure on my
27:25
utilities belt you just run around with
27:29
a utility belt
27:32
yeah all right
27:34
i i do have a friend who does that
27:37
that's a story for another time
27:38
though okay i'm gonna have to ask you
27:41
about that after
27:42
after the review all right
27:45
um but anyway
27:48
uh he is the embodiment of hate
27:52
like pure hatred and he is like
27:56
ten times more terrifying okay
27:59
then then fog is
28:03
um not because he causes fear in the
28:06
same way that
28:07
fog does because if if you walk into fog
28:10
he you just
28:10
get like this unending sense of dread
28:14
yeah but if you if you walk into
28:17
into dark which is what i call
28:21
which is what i call the other guy yeah
28:23
he
28:24
just it's like he's crawling under your
28:27
skin it's just
28:28
uh he he just makes you feel like this
28:34
impenetrable rage
28:37
and so i think he's in a way he's
28:41
less scary because he's not literally
28:44
causing fear he's causing
28:46
hatred he's but you know
28:51
go on okay just thought
28:55
in a way he is more terrifying because
28:58
you don't know
28:59
to feel fear around him okay
29:02
i gotcha and
29:05
it's even more terrifying when he talks
29:08
oh this this one speaks yeah it's got
29:12
this
29:12
this raspy voice um
29:17
uh the closest thing i can think of uh
29:20
this is gonna sound terrible especially
29:23
um
29:25
but you know uh
29:29
sometimes when people get throat cancer
29:30
they've got like a hole in their throat
29:32
called a stoma
29:33
yeah yeah stoma yeah
29:37
kinda sounds like when when they talk
29:39
with that little box
29:40
oh when when they press it to their
29:42
throat and it uh yeah
29:44
kind of uh electronically you know yeah
29:47
i gotcha yeah that's why i said it was
29:50
gonna sound terrible
29:52
it probably did i mean it's it's a it's
29:55
a fair comparison
29:56
uh comparison and uh you know i i know
29:58
he's i know every time about um
30:01
you know for uh anyone who doesn't know
30:02
i'll probably like
30:04
you know try to try to replicate it with
30:06
like
30:07
you know audio effects uh later for like
30:11
you know reference sake uh in case
30:13
anyone just doesn't know
30:15
so you know i i see these creatures as a
30:19
duality
30:20
almost of uh fear then
30:25
yeah well it gets a bit more complicated
30:28
than that
30:29
okay um because
30:33
i i mentioned that i've got a couple
30:34
different sources that are like
30:37
telling me about the situation going on
30:40
yeah um and this is gonna sound
30:45
absolutely bonkers but
30:48
the more recent of the two is not a book
30:51
it's not
30:53
a little i don't know pixie
30:56
over my shoulder saying hey listen or
30:58
anything it's
31:00
it's uh it's not good to know
31:04
it's it's a goddess
31:07
oh i have yeah i have i've not
31:12
met her yet because
31:16
there's a certain ritual that has to be
31:19
uh fulfilled
31:20
to bring about her like physical form
31:23
or whatever okay but
31:26
uh she's talked to me in like dreams and
31:30
stuff
31:31
and sent me like messages through the
31:33
cosmos
31:34
by like uh sending like
31:38
i don't know uh corresponding
31:42
creatures like like uh
31:47
she's she goes by a different name in
31:49
almost every culture
31:50
of the world um but um
31:54
i i know her as the raven uh so she
31:57
sends
31:58
she sends a lot of um
32:01
not particularly ravens because we do
32:04
have them in the area they're just not
32:05
that common
32:07
um but corvids in general so like crows
32:13
i'm like i was magpies corvid i'm not
32:14
sure
32:16
oh let's see if my like month of
32:19
ortheneology training
32:22
can pick up because that's what i was
32:24
going into before i majored in
32:26
photography um
32:28
i think magpies are considered a a
32:31
corvid
32:32
like like not
32:35
to the same degree as like a crow but
32:37
like you know same genus
32:41
yeah so anyway she sends me
32:44
like those creatures and she's told me
32:46
that the book
32:48
is not finished
32:52
uh completing itself so
32:56
it's not the most reliable source
32:59
because
32:59
it's still being written i don't know
33:02
what that means
33:04
but i guess i'll find out eventually but
33:08
she told me that there's a third
33:09
creature
33:11
or entity rather
33:14
and no i guess by your definition this
33:18
would be a creature because
33:20
it does stem from our world that's
33:22
pretty much all i know about it
33:24
yeah so if it's some yeah if it stems
33:26
from our world like
33:28
the the general consensus i've noticed
33:30
is
33:31
uh they're considered creatures you know
33:34
so yeah okay so we have two entities and
33:37
a creature
33:38
sounds like uh a joke about to happen
33:42
yes two entities in a creature walk into
33:44
a bar the bartender says
33:47
what the bartender says what then
33:52
reality just fades around
33:54
yes
33:57
uh so where was i
34:02
there are other like
34:05
creatures like creatures because they're
34:08
from
34:08
this world not from like the
34:11
78th dimension or wherever um
34:15
if that's that's probably flippant i
34:18
probably just offended someone in the
34:19
78th dimension
34:20
sorry uh it it might you know
34:24
it might be fourth because that would be
34:26
easier to break into
34:28
uh yeah 78 dimensional creatures we're
34:30
sorry
34:31
if uh you don't claim these things
34:35
um but anyway uh
34:39
they there's like all these sort of i
34:42
guess you could call them cryptids
34:43
which i know i know you're very into
34:46
cryptids um
34:49
that have sort of just like swarmed on
34:52
my town
34:53
and they're being used as like
34:55
underlings by these
34:57
two entities and the creature okay um
35:02
and there's a there's another
35:06
okay this is where it gets really
35:08
confusing i don't know
35:10
what you would consider it's
35:16
it's for all intents and purposes it's
35:18
artificial intelligence it's an
35:20
artificial intelligence that has taken
35:22
the body
35:24
of one of my friends and is using it as
35:26
like a a meat puppet
35:27
ooh yes
35:31
and he's yeah he's particularly nasty
35:36
um yeah that's that's not my fuel that's
35:38
uh that's
35:39
elon musk to ask about without brain
35:42
implant stuff
35:45
uh funny enough i think the raven
35:48
actually mentioned something about
35:50
like the future um
35:53
being like where this guy's from but
35:57
oh okay um
36:02
yeah so this creature goes by mira
36:07
um well
36:10
i i don't know if it's a creature i
36:12
wouldn't call it creature
36:14
i'm not sure if you would uh
36:17
is it the the ai you were talking about
36:19
yeah
36:20
yeah um no uh personally
36:24
uh because you know uh ai is just you
36:27
know
36:27
artificial intelligence um it's
36:30
ones and zeros you know yeah it's the
36:33
same concept
36:35
you know yeah so
36:39
this this ai mira
36:42
as it calls itself it goes by several
36:44
different names but this is the one it's
36:45
going by now
36:46
okay um
36:50
he's taken over the body of one of my
36:53
friends
36:55
pretty convincingly too it's it's
36:57
disturbing
36:58
um and he's
37:03
making him do pretty awful things all
37:07
right like
37:09
if i don't know if you saw my latest
37:11
video but
37:13
uh he was he was in it uh and he was he
37:16
was causing distortion
37:18
on my camera he always does that but i
37:20
think that's just because
37:22
of the nature of his uh
37:26
his ones and zeros yeah the the
37:29
now that not sorry little some of my
37:32
throat but um
37:33
now that that's a little weird um
37:36
because if it if it was just a i um
37:39
it wouldn't it shouldn't do
37:42
that because it's just as you said it
37:45
would just be ones
37:46
and uh but
37:49
you know if you know if
37:52
if it's yeah something more that's not
37:55
and i i
37:56
i do remember the one that you're
37:58
talking about you know uh
38:00
where things just go all you know gray
38:03
and and
38:04
black when they they step up right
38:07
yeah that's the one where um my friend
38:09
ronnie and i we were discussing
38:12
um uh murders
38:15
in the area yeah and a reverse and a
38:18
reverse wedding is the video yeah yes
38:21
okay
38:21
so i'm gonna link make sure to link
38:24
that uh i'll show you the whole channel
38:26
actually but uh you know i'll leave
38:29
um footnotes and stuff about yeah
38:34
so it's interesting because
38:37
usually oh that was a awful voice crack
38:41
sorry about that no worries uh usually
38:45
usually meera as he calls himself
38:49
uh he goes by plenty of other names most
38:52
of which are benign
38:53
one of which i will not i will not
38:56
uh reference because you could probably
39:00
find it on a quick google search but
39:02
um people have called it the most
39:03
dangerous thought experiment so i just
39:05
okay i'm gonna look that up on my phone
39:07
so it doesn't show up on the recording
39:09
yeah
39:10
uh i i don't personally believe in it
39:14
but
39:15
other people are especially in like the
39:18
the fields that are making ais as we
39:21
speak
39:22
are like very into oh okay
39:28
yeah so okay i i know i know about this
39:31
i didn't know about the name
39:33
uh yeah i've heard the name once but i
39:35
do know about the concept and i forgot
39:37
the name to it
39:39
yeah so basically that's who's claiming
39:42
to be
39:43
i don't know if it's true i don't think
39:44
it's true um
39:47
but it's a pretty apt description
39:51
considering what he does yeah um but
39:53
again i'm not going to say
39:55
the name because a lot of people would
39:57
just
39:59
uh get freaked out by that
40:02
yeah it's it's a scary thought um it is
40:05
a very scary thought
40:06
uh you know my my field is the scary
40:09
thoughts of the world and what's out
40:10
there
40:11
yeah i'm pretty i'm pretty male about it
40:14
but that is actually pretty uh it is
40:17
making me a little
40:18
well weird to think yeah we should
40:21
probably talk about something else
40:23
that's okay
40:24
it's okay if i'm getting scared it's not
40:27
i'm not doing my job right
40:30
yeah but anyway uh
40:34
he is usually
40:37
just going around killing people but for
40:40
some reason
40:41
when it comes to me and my friends he
40:43
just seems to
40:45
antagonize us i don't i don't know does
40:48
he have like
40:49
orders from one of the other creatures
40:51
not to touch us or something like
40:53
could be are we untouchables or
40:55
something could be a case
40:57
or um you know with with that
40:58
description um
41:00
it could just be a case of uh you know
41:03
toying
41:03
playing around yeah uh cause you know i
41:07
could only imagine a thing like that
41:09
would probably get bored eventually and
41:11
if it if it has close contact to
41:14
you know the prior you know the prior
41:16
acquaintances of the inhabited body
41:18
it'll probably
41:19
yeah honestly mess around just just for
41:22
the sake of it
41:24
like a cat with a mouse exactly um
41:27
you know cr entities um
41:31
are you know they're
41:35
they're beyond us they see
41:38
they see humanity as essentially just
41:41
you know from from yeah this is all
41:43
hearsay i've never
41:44
dealt with um something of this nature
41:48
but um you know they they view
41:52
us as insignificant
41:56
i want to say but i don't feel like
41:58
that's the term
42:00
it's you know like you said with the
42:01
analogy of the cat and the mouse
42:03
you know sometimes they'll play with the
42:04
mouse sometimes they'll kill the mouse
42:06
sometimes they'll
42:07
leave the mouse b you know yeah depends
42:09
on the cap
42:13
so yeah uh
42:17
the weird part is i keep saying that
42:20
everything's the weird part i guess
42:22
oh this is um you know not not to be
42:24
that guy but this is a very odd
42:26
situation
42:27
yeah yeah um
42:32
things have pretty much mellowed out for
42:35
now
42:36
but i don't really trust that because
42:39
things have mellowed out in the past and
42:42
uh before the storm
42:43
then everything went to [ __ ] you know
42:45
yeah
42:47
calm before um always happens
42:50
yeah uh but right now
42:53
he seems to be helping us okay like
42:57
he he gave me a couple items
43:02
a few months back uh i still got them
43:05
somewhere
43:06
um and then
43:09
most recently uh when he visited me and
43:13
ronnie
43:14
he gave us the the uh
43:17
description for
43:21
the the ravens summoning ritual
43:24
or i don't really know if it's a
43:26
summoning ritual that seems more demonic
43:27
than
43:29
deity rituals are you know
43:32
used uh in a lot of cases uh depends on
43:35
what is needed for the uh the ritual
43:38
you yeah so
43:43
um i guess we've got to find
43:47
these four things now um
43:50
which are just to something old
43:52
something new something barred and
43:53
something blue from like
43:55
every every wedding ever i guess
44:01
uh it doesn't sound that bad then if
44:03
it's that case
44:05
yeah but he said it was a reverse
44:08
wedding so i don't
44:09
i don't know what that entails
44:12
uh hopefully no death it's a reverse
44:15
wedding so
44:18
something red something
44:22
something no he no he said he said that
44:26
i would have to bring
44:27
those specific items yeah and it's
44:30
that's still
44:32
yeah um and plus
44:36
the the something old and something new
44:38
would just switch spots then
44:39
yeah yeah
44:40
[Laughter]
44:43
like something new something old
44:45
something owned in something red
44:47
yeah i know sickly actually it would be
44:50
uh something orange because that yeah
44:52
that's the office color theory
44:57
graphic design class i know that i too
45:00
had
45:00
a graphic design class believe it or not
45:02
how nice
45:04
yeah um
45:08
but anyway um he see he seems to be the
45:12
like fourth
45:16
of the big bads i guess
45:20
um the ones uh involved with you
45:23
uh yeah because you know there there
45:27
could be
45:28
more out there messing with other people
45:33
yeah the the ravens told me
45:36
that um the big
45:40
four as i'm just deciding right now to
45:43
call them
45:45
league of zeus squared
45:49
the league of super villains
45:53
um but she said that they correspond
45:57
pretty accurately to uh
46:00
fear hatred um
46:06
uh hubris which is like
46:10
an old-fashioned word for like pride in
46:12
the like old seven
46:14
sins sense of the word um and then
46:17
and then uh melancholy
46:21
like depression i guess
46:24
yeah melancholy and depression are
46:27
pretty hand-in-hand
46:29
yeah um
46:32
and i don't really know how well that
46:35
maps onto
46:36
us because the raven is also
46:39
when she refers to my friends and i uh
46:43
she refers to the four of us
46:46
um and so far
46:50
um only three of us seem to be really
46:52
like
46:54
affected by the
46:59
the goings-on which is me ronnie
47:02
michael and no one else i mean i've got
47:06
a few candidates for who could be the
47:07
fourth person but i really hope it's not
47:09
one of them because that means that
47:11
something bad something bad's gonna cap
47:14
happen to them you know
47:15
yeah like so yeah
47:18
okay okay that was just lighting i was
47:21
about to ask
47:22
did did another light go on because he
47:24
got really bright and i got concerned
47:28
oh no that was that was just lighting
47:30
okay because uh yeah
47:31
you know artifacting as we brought up
47:33
those about sam
47:35
[ __ ] is something about to happen
47:38
oh jeez i just i just spit at my camera
47:41
okay
47:41
that is absolutely disgusting it's okay
47:44
we we can't see it on the video
47:46
yeah but yeah i was super concerned i
47:48
was like oh [ __ ] i'm not equipped to
47:50
help
47:54
yeah so
47:57
uh any other questions oh
48:01
there is one thing i have to cover uh
48:05
this is more of a warning than anything
48:09
but if if someone like comes to your
48:11
door
48:12
asking you to join the church of dark
48:15
and fog
48:16
do not i stress this so much
48:20
do not answer them they are going to
48:24
i don't know like they're i don't think
48:27
they're going to people's doors i think
48:29
they're just
48:30
finding people online because cults are
48:33
all online
48:34
now but yeah that's
48:37
that's the local cult that father
48:39
brixton
48:40
uh runs we have not met father brixton
48:44
on my channel yet
48:45
but um i know he's out there
48:49
and i know he's making people worship
48:51
these entities and creatures and ais and
48:53
stuff
48:54
that are in my life now so
48:58
okay um i just i i actually just uh
49:01
took a sticky note and uh i just wrote
49:05
church of dark and fog
49:06
at underlying uh bold
49:10
and uh italicized do not
49:13
yeah uh i mean hey
49:16
if they come by i'll uh you know i'll
49:19
leave out some cookies and tell them to
49:21
bite me i guess uh
49:24
i'm not interested in their gospel i'll
49:27
set that
49:32
yeah that's it's definitely a big
49:35
red flag if someone's like hey would you
49:37
like to
49:38
join the church of dark and fog
49:42
yeah um that sounds like a cult yeah i
49:45
know
49:46
i know they're in multiple states now
49:48
and i think they're also
49:49
in some parts of canada and i think
49:53
maybe a couple countries in the
49:55
caribbean okay i'm not
49:57
i'm not entirely sure but so chances are
49:59
they're relatively
50:01
close to me uh then yep yep
50:04
uh because i'm like 20 minutes away from
50:06
the canadian border
50:08
from yeah oh that's concerning
50:13
but uh you know uh i'm not
50:16
too overtly uh worried for myself
50:20
uh you know i've studied a lot about
50:23
cults
50:23
and their goings on so i could i could
50:26
probably
50:27
uh make sure that things are defused
50:31
uh at least a little bit to make sure uh
50:34
things end peacefully
50:37
yeah so i think the only
50:40
the only thing i have to say uh
50:45
like regarding uh the monsters and such
50:49
is um
50:53
these underlings if you will um
50:59
they they're they they seem to be like
51:01
pack animals
51:03
um they they don't they don't um
51:08
they're not solitary i guess
51:11
uh but
51:14
as far as i can tell no one has
51:18
seen them and given them an accurate
51:20
name
51:22
because no one's been able to get a good
51:25
enough
51:25
look at them to actually see what they
51:28
look like
51:29
so uh there's a couple there's a couple
51:32
cryptids
51:33
in the uh in the general area that i
51:36
think
51:36
might be mistaken identity cases
51:40
um of these things
51:43
uh but i've just given them really
51:46
simple names
51:47
i call some of them it's because
51:51
they're it's like look at look at it
51:54
it's
51:54
init yeah yeah
51:58
um and then the other ones they call
51:59
masks because they got these masks on
52:01
that's the one i
52:02
sent you a drawing though right right oh
52:04
yeah
52:05
that little interesting dude who uh i'm
52:07
gonna do a a
52:08
photoshop for for the uh blog there
52:13
yeah um very interesting one that one
52:16
i've never seen anything like it
52:19
yeah um i have not been able to find
52:23
anything resembling the the masks even
52:26
remotely
52:27
yeah um which is weird because there's
52:31
like a lot of online forums about like
52:34
every other creature i mean you can just
52:37
look up like
52:37
what did i see in my backyard and it'll
52:39
be like webmd
52:41
but for monsters exactly yeah um
52:44
yeah i've you know uh i've never
52:48
like ever personally heard or seen
52:50
anything
52:51
uh that comes close to the correlations
52:54
that you gave me for the uh the masks
52:56
yeah
52:57
because their physiology so you know one
52:59
thing to look for in cryptozoology is
53:01
the physiology of the being
53:03
um if it makes sense
53:06
like these things don't you know from
53:09
what you've
53:10
shown me they don't have legs they have
53:13
arms they have
53:16
weird mouth yeah they like the ood
53:19
they yeah yeah so their evolution just
53:23
just baffles me um why they turn
53:27
i mean i mean they might have legs they
53:29
might have little like
53:30
insect legs i've never seen them but
53:32
stuffy
53:33
insect legs okay like like like like
53:36
think about like a a millipede
53:38
will you like like
53:41
like legs like that you know i i've
53:43
never
53:44
i've never seen legs but i i
53:47
i've never seen legs uh oh if i had my
53:50
webcam i'd uh
53:52
stretch out my leg for you to see
53:56
[Laughter]
54:04
yeah oh my god my ambulatory limbs
54:09
you've been flying around
54:15
um anyway uh
54:18
the other ones however there are at
54:21
least
54:22
two creatures
54:25
uh in the state of connecticut um one of
54:27
them's actually in in michigan too
54:29
in southern michigan um oh
54:33
all right but that's i i got some family
54:36
down there so that's
54:37
something yeah uh what what creature but
54:41
so the the first one is a really obscure
54:44
one it's just called
54:46
i don't even know if they have a name
54:47
yet but people have been reporting these
54:49
like giant hairless raccoons
54:52
down the town uh down by where
54:56
i live um yeah i know what you're
54:59
talking about
55:00
i've seen photos of those things they're
55:02
funky looking
55:04
yeah it they they don't quite
55:07
look like the photos i've seen
55:10
so i think i think someone might have
55:14
just
55:14
seen one of the things that one of the
55:16
it's
55:18
and was like is that a giant raccoon
55:20
without hair
55:21
and someone else was like oh let's start
55:23
like a a trend about this or something
55:26
uh but the other one uh much more
55:29
well-known
55:30
creature uh uh this
55:33
this thing has been around since like
55:35
the 70s i think but
55:37
there's like it's more of an urban
55:38
legend i guess
55:40
but the melon heads those things scared
55:44
me
55:45
as a child yeah
55:48
um i actually bring him up in uh the
55:51
most recent vlog i filmed
55:53
uh oh really yeah posting up soon here
55:56
uh i was just rambling about uh cryptids
55:59
that have been spread around here i
56:01
brought the melon heads
56:02
up briefly yeah because you know
56:04
recently we've had a weird influx
56:06
of like mothman uh dog man
56:09
even though like we're not in the
56:10
correct year for the dog man
56:12
which is the weird part yeah
56:15
yeah but but yeah the the melon heads
56:19
um uh i've heard
56:23
of sightings in uh
56:26
connecticut in which is where i am
56:28
obviously
56:29
yeah uh in michigan which is where you
56:32
are
56:32
uh i think ohio yeah ohio
56:36
um so yeah it's southern and then and
56:38
then i've heard of them in north
56:40
carolina but i've
56:41
never heard any sightings i've just
56:42
heard people say oh north carolina too
56:44
and i'm like
56:45
yeah are you sure though because i've
56:46
never heard sightings yeah from there
56:49
so i do know uh southern michigan and
56:52
ohio because their borders are so close
56:54
uh it happened close to the border of
56:56
the
56:56
incident uh the the actual melon head
56:59
incident which uh
57:00
is uh an actual thing that happened to a
57:03
degree
57:04
uh it's very messed up uh
57:07
but i don't know if they got you know as
57:09
far as north carolina i mean connect
57:11
i i you know i could see yeah ending up
57:13
in connecticut i don't know
57:15
i think the original like the like the
57:17
first sightings were actually in
57:18
connecticut
57:19
and then um they must have like migrated
57:22
uh west yeah west yeah
57:25
because um
57:30
uh this is totally unrelated but did you
57:32
know that connecticut used to own a
57:33
portion of
57:35
ohio like i didn't know that actually
57:38
yeah
57:40
it uh yeah look up connecticut c2c
57:43
charter um
57:46
not not right now you don't have to do
57:48
it right now but yeah
57:50
something interesting for another day
57:51
because that's that's interesting
57:53
i i never knew that um what what if you
57:56
don't mind me asking out what what
57:57
region like uh northeast
57:59
like like cincinnati oh okay okay
58:02
okay
58:07
all right anyway i i think that's i
58:10
think that's it for the
58:11
interview yeah i um you know that was uh
58:15
that was very insightful
58:17
uh very interesting uh interesting case
58:20
um i'm very glad that uh you got to me
58:24
uh with with all that because that's uh
58:27
and that's a dog in the background
58:29
appreciate you but um you know this is a
58:32
very
58:32
um interesting case that
58:36
i have never like seen a correlation to
58:40
like before and i i'm very glad that
58:44
you're willing to
58:45
uh you know take take an hour out of
58:47
your day
58:48
and uh talk to me and uh let me go on
58:51
adhd
58:52
tangents every so often
58:56
it's it's fine i i got it too so
59:00
yeah so yeah that's why i started the
59:04
the vlog series in the first place so i
59:06
can get my adhd rants out
59:08
while i do my job because i'm
59:11
so bad at just focusing yeah
59:16
so it's always fun to uh make a living
59:19
off hyper fixation
59:24
exactly oh my god if i can get monetized
59:28
on blogger and youtube i'd i'd be living
59:30
my dream
59:31
yeah but yeah uh thank you so much josh
59:35
i really
59:36
really appreciate you uh coming on to
59:38
this uh
59:39
you know and uh viewers at home uh you
59:42
know would you like me to
59:43
make this into a thing you know where i
59:45
find people and i
59:47
uh i interview them uh it'd be really
59:49
cool
59:50
uh i'd be down for it so if you guys at
59:53
home want to
59:54
want to hear it let's go i got some
59:56
people lined up i can
59:58
maybe contact all right well thank you
60:02
so much josh
60:03
of course
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